Don Toliver and Malcolm Todd on Songwriting, Fame, and Creative Energy

Don Toliver and Malcolm Todd discuss their creative processes, sudden fame, and the energy behind their music in a joint interview. Toliver had sampled Todd's song 'Chest Pain (I Love)' for his hit 'E85' before the two met. Todd's latest album, Do That Again, addresses his growing public profile.
Malcolm Todd began recording in his Los Angeles bedroom during the pandemic, blending indie pop and R&B. Tracks like “Art House” and “Roommates” gained online traction in 2023, leading to a tour with Omar Apollo and the collaboration “Bleed” on his 2025 debut. His follow-up, Do That Again, explores his rising visibility; his sister Audrey Hobert is also enjoying a pop breakthrough.
Don Toliver, from Houston, broke through via Travis Scott’s 2018 Astroworld. His 2018 mixtape Donny Womack referenced Bobby Womack, and he traces early artistic interest to fifth-grade choir and after-class beat-making. He sampled Todd’s “Chest Pain (I Love)” for “E85” before they met. In their interview, Todd joked about sweating in red cashmere while a fireplace burned on a hot L.A. day.
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